WEBVTT 0:00:00.999 --> 0:00:03.999 Parents are sometimes intimated by professionals 0:00:04.999 --> 0:00:08.999 and how some of them are able to overcome that, 0:00:08.999 --> 0:00:10.999 and you’ve alluded to that. 0:00:10.999 --> 0:00:13.999 And so what I’d like to ask you instead 0:00:13.999 --> 0:00:14.999 is about another movement 0:00:14.999 --> 0:00:16.999 other than the parent movement. 0:00:16.999 --> 0:00:18.999 I saw a picture not too long ago 0:00:18.999 --> 0:00:20.999 that Gunnar sent me 0:00:20.999 --> 0:00:22.999 of you marching down the street 0:00:22.999 --> 0:00:25.999 with a banner twice your size, I think, 0:00:26.999 --> 0:00:29.999 and you were with some self-advocates, 0:00:29.999 --> 0:00:32.999 some people with developmental disabilities 0:00:32.999 --> 0:00:36.999 who were trying to make the point 0:00:36.999 --> 0:00:39.999 that they wanted their rights and their own recognition. 0:00:40.999 --> 0:00:43.999 Could you describe that movement and 0:00:43.999 --> 0:00:44.999 give us some insight into that? 0:00:44.999 --> 0:00:47.999 Oh, that was a great day. It was... 0:00:47.999 --> 0:00:49.999 We were marching from 0:00:49.999 --> 0:00:52.999 the gates of the institution 0:00:52.999 --> 0:00:55.999 into the town 0:00:55.999 --> 0:00:57.999 where we were having a meeting on the common 0:00:58.999 --> 0:00:59.999 in western Massachusetts. 0:00:59.999 --> 0:01:01.999 And a lot of the people 0:01:01.999 --> 0:01:03.999 in the procession 0:01:03.999 --> 0:01:06.999 had been residents in the institution. 0:01:06.999 --> 0:01:08.999 It was a great day. 0:01:09.999 --> 0:01:11.999 But the whole self-advocacy movement 0:01:11.999 --> 0:01:16.999 goes back, oh, it’s almost 20 years now since 0:01:16.999 --> 0:01:18.999 Bengt Nirjie in Sweden 0:01:18.999 --> 0:01:22.999 realized the importance of 0:01:22.999 --> 0:01:25.999 what self-advocacy could do for people, 0:01:26.999 --> 0:01:28.999 began to have small groups 0:01:29.267 --> 0:01:32.999 of mentally retarded young people 0:01:32.999 --> 0:01:34.999 meeting together, perhaps with 0:01:34.999 --> 0:01:35.999 some college students 0:01:35.999 --> 0:01:38.934 who were interested in the whole field, 0:01:38.999 --> 0:01:42.999 and his...the brilliance 0:01:42.999 --> 0:01:43.999 that he showed was 0:01:43.999 --> 0:01:45.999 that he realized 0:01:45.999 --> 0:01:48.999 that they could speak for themselves. 0:01:48.999 --> 0:01:49.999 If given a chance, 0:01:50.999 --> 0:01:51.999 given an opportunity, 0:01:51.999 --> 0:01:55.999 they could think and they could 0:01:55.999 --> 0:01:59.999 really express their own needs. 0:01:59.999 --> 0:02:01.999 That was the beginning. 0:02:01.999 --> 0:02:03.999 It spread from Sweden 0:02:03.999 --> 0:02:04.999 to England where they 0:02:05.999 --> 0:02:07.999 began to have a few small conferences, 0:02:07.999 --> 0:02:10.999 to Canada, to the United States, 0:02:10.999 --> 0:02:11.999 so that now 0:02:12.999 --> 0:02:13.999 nobody has any numbers 0:02:13.999 --> 0:02:16.999 but I think that 0:02:16.999 --> 0:02:19.999 in every state there must be 0:02:19.999 --> 0:02:21.999 a group who are 0:02:21.999 --> 0:02:25.999 beginning to help us learn from them 0:02:25.999 --> 0:02:28.999 what the real answers should be. 0:02:29.834 --> 0:02:32.999 There’s a very interesting historical aspect to this. 0:02:32.999 --> 0:02:36.999 One of the very early propaganda leaflets 0:02:36.999 --> 0:02:38.999 of the National Association 0:02:38.999 --> 0:02:40.999 for Retarded Children, as it was still 0:02:40.999 --> 0:02:41.999 called in those days 0:02:41.999 --> 0:02:42.999 and that’s important in connection 0:02:42.999 --> 0:02:44.999 with what I have to say 0:02:44.999 --> 0:02:47.999 it was entitled We Speak for Them. 0:02:48.999 --> 0:02:51.999 And it was a real true feeling 0:02:51.999 --> 0:02:55.999 of the parents that nobody but they 0:02:55.999 --> 0:02:59.999 were interested and ready to speak 0:02:59.999 --> 0:03:01.999 for their children. 0:03:01.999 --> 0:03:04.999 But, you see, what faces the parents today 0:03:05.999 --> 0:03:07.999 is that these children 0:03:07.999 --> 0:03:08.999 and young people 0:03:09.999 --> 0:03:11.999 are learning to speak for themselves. 0:03:11.999 --> 0:03:14.999 And the parents have to learn, 0:03:14.999 --> 0:03:16.999 they have to learn to listen. 0:03:16.999 --> 0:03:19.999 And that is difficult because 0:03:19.999 --> 0:03:21.334 it was... they were so convinced 0:03:21.999 --> 0:03:24.999 of their responsibility to be the spokespeople, 0:03:24.999 --> 0:03:27.999 that for them now to realize 0:03:27.999 --> 0:03:29.999 that these young people 0:03:29.999 --> 0:03:32.999 have minds of their own, 0:03:32.999 --> 0:03:33.999 be it limited 0:03:33.999 --> 0:03:35.999 we are all limited 0:03:35.999 --> 0:03:38.999 compared with some other people 0:03:38.999 --> 0:03:40.999 but they can speak up. 0:03:40.999 --> 0:03:42.999 And so they are a challenge, 0:03:44.567 --> 0:03:45.999 and not in any negative sense, 0:03:46.999 --> 0:03:49.901 but they are challenged with the very movement 0:03:49.999 --> 0:03:51.999 whose horizon is suddenly being widened 0:03:52.999 --> 0:03:56.999 by opinions which they didn’t expect to hear 0:03:56.999 --> 0:03:58.999 from their offspring.