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They often would be as poorly

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dressed, as disheveled

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as the patients. It was...

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and, as I said, the lack of

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training at that time was really...

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you just couldn't

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figure out how in the world

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they were running these

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places. And you never would

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have thought they were

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hospitals. They simply were not hospitals.

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In hospitals

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you envision kind of spick

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and span, very clean.

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The nurses and doctors...

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nowadays I guess they don't

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wear uniforms anymore,

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but at that time they did,

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always sparkling clean.

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Well that was not the way with

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these hospitals. In addition,

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because they were so short

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staffed, they used patients

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for most of the work

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around the place.

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And, of course, they also said this

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was therapy. Well, I think

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with therapy you need

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also to have guidance and

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training and direction.

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This was not that kind of therapy.

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This was just work.